Saudi engagement with Iraqi Shiites stirs talk of opening with Iran

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman meets with Iraqi Shi’ite leader Muqtada al-Sadr in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia July 30, 2017. Bandar Algaloud/Courtesy of Saudi Royal Court/Handout via REUTERS ATTENTION EDITORS – THIS PICTURE WAS PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY. TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY – RTS19RFI

Al Monitor: On May 2, Saudi Arabia’s Mohammed bin Salman (now the crown prince) said in a television interview that dialogue with Iran was impossible due to Iranians’ belief in the Shiite Messiah. “Their stance is that the awaited Mahdi will come, and they need to create a fertile environment for the arrival of the awaited Mahdi, and they need to take over the Islamic world,” bin Salman said when he was deputy crown prince. He then asked, “Where are the common points that we might be able to reach an understanding on with this regime?”

Almost three months later, on July 31, the crown prince received in the western port city of Jeddah prominent Iraqi Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Sadr is the leader and founder of what used to be called the Mahdi Army — named after the same Shiite Messiah mentioned above whose reappearance Sadr believes in. The Iraqi cleric has also publicly expressed harsh views of Saudi Arabia. In 2016, he reacted to the execution of Saudi Shiite dissident cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr by calling on Saudi Shiites to take to the streets and by describing the authorities in the kingdom as “Daesh [Islamic State] rascals.”

Despite these sectarian rants, neither Salman nor Sadr found it difficult to meet and pose for pictures as they discussed “issues of common interests.” more …

Opinion: There are two issues of common interest: control of the Temple Mount and hatred of Jacob, whom God called Israel (Genesis 35:10).

  • Muqtada al-Sadr is Iraqi which places him in the line of Abraham, Isaac, and Esau
  • Mohammed bin Salman is Saudi which places him in the line of Abraham and Ishmael

“Now God had promised Abraham and Sarah a son. Sarah, thinking that she was too old to bear a child, prompted Abraham to sleep with her handmaiden to help God’s promise come to pass.

Ishmael, Abraham’s son with the Egyptian handmaiden Hagar, was thirteen years old when Abraham circumcised him. Abraham obeyed God and circumcised his whole household on that very day, and “because Ishmael kept the covenant, God promised to make him a great nation” (Gen. 21:18).

The only account of Esau’s circumcision is found in the Mishna.

“On account of his ruddy appearance he [Esau] remained uncircumcised. Isaac, his father, feared that it [his ruddy appearance] was due to poor circulation of the blood, and he hesitated to perform the circumcision. He decided to wait until Esau should attain his
thirteenth year, the age at which Ishmael had received the sign of the covenant. But when Esau grew up, he refused to give heed to his father’s wish, and so he was left uncircumcised.” (Excerpt: Antichrist: The Search for Amalek)

Genesis 17:14: “And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.”

One of the most intriguing aspects of the final wars before the beginning of the tribulation period is that Sunni and Shia will fight side by side.

Notice: There is no mention of Ishmael after Psalm 83. Edom, according to Isaiah 63:1-3, will continue the hatred to the end.

Psalm 83:6-8 (notice that the Psalm 83 invaders represent both Edom and Ishmael (a reference to the marriage of Esau to Ishmael’s daughter).

  • Edom and Amalek – (Palestinians of southern Israel) – Edomites/Sunni
  • Philistia – (Palestinians of Gaza) – Edomites/Sunni
  • Ammon, Moab – (Arabs of central and northern Jordan) – Edomites/Sunni
  • Gebal and Tyre – (Arabs of northern (Sunni) and southern Lebanon (Shia) – mixed
  • Assyria – (Arabs of Syria and northern Iraq) – Edomites (Medes) -mixed
  • Ishmaelites – (Arabs of Saudi Arabia) – Ishmaelites/Sunni

Ezekiel 38:1-6 Gog is a prince from the far north

  • Magog – (Russia)
  • Persia – (Iran – Edomites/Shia)
  • Meshech, Togarmah, Gomer, Tubal – (Turkey- Edomites/Sunni)
  • Cush – (Ethiopia), Sudan, Somalia – (possibly* Ishmaelites/Sunni)
  • Put – (Libya) – (possibly* Ishmaelites/Sunni)